Could Nick Foles throw 45 touchdowns in 2014 and be the (Fantasy Football) MVP?

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Only five quarterbacks in NFL history have thrown 45 or more touchdowns in a season and they’re all among the greatest to ever play the position:

  • Dan Marino, 1984
  • Peyton Manning, 2004, 2013
  • Tom Brady, 2007
  • Drew Brees, 2011
  • Aaron Rodgers, 2011

When you consider that esteemed group, the idea that Nick Foles could, theoretically, join them probably doesn’t sit right in your stomach. After all, he’s just Foles and they’re probably all Hall of Famers, but if you open your mind for a few minutes, I think what you’re about to read may prelude to the leading narrative of the 2014 fantasy football season.

In week six of the 2013 season Foles made his first start of the year and from that point forward authored one of the most ruthlessly efficient seasons in NFL history. How impressive was it? Consider the following table, which shows the QBs with the best TD rates in the NFL from week six and beyond.

Nick Foles28764.1%2645248.4%
Peyton Manning46165.1%3593357.6%
Andy Dalton41160.6%3081286.8%
Aaron Rodgers13866.7%120596.5%
Russell Wilson28065.4%2360186.4%
Drew Brees44968.2%3440276.0%
Josh McCown22366.4%1821135.8%
Ben Roethlisberger42364.3%2960235.4%
Philip Rivers35567.3%2872195.4%
Colin Kaepernick28459.5%2228155.3%

It feels weird to say, but Foles’ TD rate leaves Manning and everyone else in the dust. You could argue that it would be unsustainable for Foles to maintain an eight percent TD rate for an entire season (even though he did it for 10 games last year), but I think it’s also a possibility that Chip Kelly’s offense continues to evolve and remains nearly unstoppable. More on that in a minute.

Projecting Foles’ 2014 TD total

Let’s do a little exercise that supposes a range of outcomes for Nick Foles’ 2014 season based on his 2013 TD Rate (8.4 percent) and passes attempted per game (29). Everyone assumes his TD Rate will regress, so I’ve included options one and two percent below his 2013 rate. As for pass attempts, I’ve included options for him throwing a little less, the same, or a little more.

Pass Att/GTD Rate Big Regression (6.4%)TD Rate Some Regression (7.4%)TD Rate Same (8.4%)

If Foles can maintain his TD Rate and attempt a few more passes per game, the projection calls for 43 TDs, and that doesn’t even account for a few other favorable conditions. At worst, almost every projection calls for 30+ TDs, which is still a pretty good worst-case scenario. For perspective, Manning only surpassed 30 TDs once in the first six seasons of his career. Andrew Luck hasn’t thrown more than 25 TDs in either of his first two seasons.

But should we assume the worst? Should we even assume a regression? After all, Kelly’s offense has never been stopped and with a full year in the system I think Foles could be even better at executing it. For historical perspective, I’ve pulled the following list of QBs drafted in the top 100 who had the same coach and coordinator for consecutive seasons at the beginning of their career and how they fared across those two seasons. To be included in this list, a guy needed to have a 20+ TD season before his 25th birthday.

PlayerOff CoordYear NYear N TD%Year N+1Year N+1 TD%ChangeRecord
D CulpepperS Lewis20007.0%20013.8%-3.1%5 and 11
R WilsonD Bevell20126.6%20136.4%-0.2%13 and 3
R Griffin IIIK Shanahan20125.1%20133.5%-1.6%3 and 13
P ManningT Moore19984.5%19994.9%0.4%13 and 3
C NewtonR Chudzinski20114.1%20123.9%-0.2%7 and 9
A DaltonJ Gruden20113.9%20125.1%1.2%10 and 6
D McNabbR Dowhower19993.7%20003.7%0.0%11 and 5
M RyanM Mularkey20083.7%20094.9%1.2%9 and 7
J FreemanG Olson20093.4%20105.3%1.8%10 and 6
M SanchezB Schottenheimer20093.3%20103.4%0.1%11 and 5
J FlaccoC Cameron20083.3%20094.2%0.9%9 and 7
E ManningJ Hufnagel20043.0%20054.3%1.3%11 and 5
R TannehillM Sherman20122.5%20134.1%1.6%8 and 8

I know that’s a lot of numbers, but here’s the takeaway from this table: Unless the 2014 Philadelphia Eagles turn into a dumpster fire, it’s not unreasonable to expect Foles’ TD Rate to stay about the same as it was in 2013. Basically everyone on this list held steady or improved, with the two exceptions being guys who quarterbacked disastrous teams (or were the teams disastrous because the QBs were so bad?). Considering how things look in the NFC East, I’d have a hard time envisioning the Eagles going belly up, which means that maybe another year with an eight percent TD Rate is possible after all.

But Is It, Really?

If I’m looking for reasons to self-criticize, I would look at that last table and be concerned that most of the “N Season” TD rates were so much lower than Foles’ 2013 rate. To understand what it’s like to perform at a truly elite level, I’ve pulled a historical list of players who had a TD rate above seven percent on more than 300 passing attempts. From there, I looked at how they fared in their “N+1” season (i.e. Foles’ 2014) to see if anyone can possibly maintain such a high level.

QBYearAgeTD%N+1 TD%Split
Peyton Manning2004289.9%6.2%-3.7%
Aaron Rodgers2011289.0%7.1%-1.9%
Tom Brady2007308.7%hurthurt
Nick Foles2013248.7%tbdtbd
Dan Marino1984238.5%5.3%-3.2%
Peyton Manning2013378.3%tbdtbd
Kurt Warner1999288.2%6.1%-2.2%
Randall Cunningham1998358.0%4.0%-4.0%
Joe Montana1987317.8%4.5%-3.3%
Chris Chandler1998337.6%5.2%-2.4%
Steve Young1994337.6%4.5%-3.1%
Vince Ferragamo1980267.4%dnpdnp
Tom Brady2010337.3%6.4%-0.9%
Boomer Esiason1988277.2%6.2%-1.1%
Brett Favre1996277.2%6.8%-0.4%
Daunte Culpepper2004277.1%2.8%-4.3%
Philip Rivers2008277.1%5.8%-1.4%
Aaron Rodgers2012297.1%5.9%-1.2%
Dan Marino1986257.1%5.9%-1.2%
Drew Brees2011327.0%6.4%-0.6%

Bad news, every single player who surpassed the seven percent TD rate saw a decrease in their rate the following season. Only Aaron Rodgers with his 2011 and 2012 was able to post consecutive seasons with above a seven percent rate, which is interesting for reasons you’ll see in a moment. So, maybe it’s out of reach for Foles to improve his TD rate, but as I previously mentioned, even a considerable drop in his TD rate still puts him on track to throw 30+ TDs. And there’s still more to like.

Is It Possible That The Eagles Receiving Corps Got Better?

Many people are fussing over the Eagles and Nick Foles losing DeSean Jackson, but let’s be perfectly clear: Kelly chose to cut Jackson because he thought it made his football team better. Obviously Kelly weighed the pros and cons of the Eagles offense without Jackson and concluded, “Yeah, we can be at least as good without him.” I think they can score more points without him and here’s why.

Take a look at the red zone effectiveness of the Eagles’ main receivers during their NFL careers:

WRCar RZ TrgsCar RZ TDCareer RZTD%
Zach Ertz6350.0%
Riley Cooper26934.6%
Jeremy Maclin541527.8%
Darren Sproles701724.3%
Brent Celek871921.8%
LeSean McCoy46919.6%
Jason Avant701115.7%
DeSean Jackson66913.6%

The Eagles eliminated the two worst red zone targets on their team and replaced them with Jeremy Maclin (for Jackson) and Jordan Matthews (for Jason Avant), both of whom are bigger than their predecessors. Need I remind you that bigger receivers score more TDs? After all, the name of the game is not to gain yards. No, friends, the name of the game is scoring points. You might even argue that a Zach Ertz overtaking Brent Celek is better for Foles’ red zone prowess, but we probably need a bigger sample to draw any definitive conclusions.

Will The Eagles Throw Enough?

One potential concern expressed by Shawn Siegele and others is whether the Eagles will be too good in 2014, to the extent that the second half of Eagles’ games will feature a relentless wave of LeSean McCoy and Chris Polk as they try to milk the clock and protect a lead. Obviously this scenario could be bad news, but I think there’s another side of this coin.

For starters, Rich Hribar has demonstrated that playing from a neutral or leading position is the ideal situation for maximizing QB production. In case you were wondering, Foles averaged a league-leading 30.1 fantasy points per game in contests the Eagles won. Moreover, consider that Vegas has set the Eagles win total at nine games this year, which means they’re expected to be a top eight team and play with plenty of leads.

Another piece of the puzzle that gives me room for optimism is that the Eagles were the fifth-most reluctant passing team once they got inside their opponent’s 25. The following table shows the most run-heavy teams inside the 25 from the time Foles became a starter. As you can see, even a small shift in play calling that results in more passing attempts in the scoring part of the field could mean a few extra TDs for Foles.


The Icing and The Advice

I mentioned that Aaron Rodgers (2011 and 2012) is the only QB to post consecutive seven percent TD rate seasons. If you check out the QB Similarity Scores app and create a projection for Foles based on the games he started (remove Weeks 2, 4, 5) the high-end projections for 2014 look like this, which includes both Rodgers seasons in question.

  • Aaron Rodgers, 2011:  45 TDs
  • Aaron Rodgers, 2012:  39 TDs
  • Daunte Culpepper, 2004:  39 TDs
  • Tom Brady, 2011:  39 TDs

Could Foles throw 45 TDs in 2014 and be the (fantasy football) MVP? I think so. Is it likely? Probably not, but the floor looks to be at least 30+ TDs. If that’s the case, Foles is probably someone you want on your fantasy team. As you’ll see below, his ADP has been in a steady slide since March 28–the day the Eagles cut Jackson— and has leveled off in the early sixth round. He’s typically the sixth QB drafted. Putting this price in context, only five players in 2013 and five players in 2012 threw for more than 30 TDs, so if you believe that 30 is Foles’ floor, you should feel confident drafting him among the top six QBs, with upside to burn. Basically, the market is currently pricing him based on his floor.

Nick Foles ADPThe million-dollar question here is whether or not Foles can cash in on increased system familiarity, better red zone receiving threats, and additional high-value pass attempts. If even a couple of those things come to fruition, Foles, the Eagles, and his fantasy football owners are in for a fun season in 2014.

Blaspheming about the Eagles QB is nothing new at RotoViz.  Be sure to read this one too: Has Nick Foles surpassed Andrew Luck?

Jon Moore is a contributor at RotoViz and a coach at RotoAcademy.  Continue this conversation with him on Twitter or Google+.

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  1. amicsta
    June 25, 2014 at 4:41 pm —

    Great piece. One thing that I think is important is that while I agree the Eagles receiving corps may have gotten better, it may not score as many long touchdowns. DeSean has scored 27 touchdowns of 30 yards or more (including 4 last season with Foles) on 356 career receptions (7.6%) while Jeremy Maclin has scored just 8 such touchdowns on 258 career receptions (3.1%). If we’re talking about Foles’ touchdowns from a raw percentage standpoint, the ability to score on these longs plays I think this is important at some level, though exactly how much I’m not sure (of course, better RZ efficiency would help to offset this). Just some food for thought.

    Love the premise though and I agree with it. The fact that Foles looks like a capable rusher in Kelly’s system (221 yds and 3TD last season) just adds to his overall upside and upper-tier floor.

  2. scienergy
    June 25, 2014 at 4:56 pm —

    I think he can, which is why I’m seriously considering retaining Cooper for the 2014 season.  Kelly has said he only wants receivers who excel at getting off man coverage because that it what they see the most of.  Cooper may not be the fastest, youngest or most athletic but he does do one thing very well and that’s win vs man coverage.  He was also Fole’s favorite target and we watched that play out in amazing fashion from the moment Foles stepped on the field.  We’ve seen it before, a good QB can make an average receiver look like a superstar.

  3. TheCFX
    June 25, 2014 at 4:57 pm —

    amicsta Thanks so much for your comment!  Great point about the rushing.  I could have mentioned the rushing, but it was already getting pretty lengthy.  Your point about long-passes is one that will be worth watching this year.  I think Kelly/Foles have more tolerance for jump balls than a lot of people, but we probably need to see more.  Thanks again!

  4. FFAvenger
    June 25, 2014 at 4:58 pm —

    I like Foles A LOT, but on the basis of his primary targets being a 6’0″ Maclin (who has never caught more than 1,000 yards and averages 6.5 TDs per year) a Hartline-esque talent in Cooper, a 2nd year TE, and a couple of rookie WRs – I see his ceiling as being more of like a 30-TD guy.

  5. TheCFX
    June 25, 2014 at 4:59 pm —

    scienergy Yea, I think, in a way, having Foles is sort of a hedge against trying to figure out which of his targets is going to excel the most, but similar to the Broncos last year, or maybe the Saints, having a lower cost receiver from the team (i.e. Cooper) is probably a pretty good bet.

  6. TheCFX
    June 25, 2014 at 5:00 pm —

    FFAvenger That’s probably a fair point.  I think that JMatt is probably the closest thing they have to a true #1 type, but he’s obviously unproven.  As much as anything, I think the array of weapons that they have and Foles’ ability to pick the best target somewhat negates his need to have a super elite WR, although obviously that would help.  Sorry to see that we’re a little off as far as how we view his ceiling, but thanks so much for reading!

  7. FFAvenger
    June 25, 2014 at 5:24 pm —

    TheCFX I don’t think we’re totally off.  I think the 45-TD scenario is just a season or two premature.  He’s definitely capable – he just needs a legit #1 weapon (probably Matthews).

  8. DSR24718
    June 25, 2014 at 7:19 pm —

    FFAvenger TheCFX  If you think of Cooper as Jordy Nelson-esque, rather than Hartline, then I think 30+ TDs soungs a lot more feasible. Even if the reality is somewhere between Jordy and Hartline, 30+ TDs seems very possible…

  9. AllanBasso
    June 25, 2014 at 7:24 pm —

    TheCFX amicsta I believe the loss of long TDs is a significant con, because once they are in the redzone they might run more than pass once again this year. So less long TDs might equal to less pass TDs overall.
    But it’s not that huge downside to prevent from drafting Foles.

  10. A Magician Named GOB
    June 25, 2014 at 8:24 pm —

    Foles’ TD rate was indeed one of my hardest projections. I landed his TD rate at 5.7% – way below the big regression in your chart – for three reasons:

    1. Even a 6.4% TD rate would net nearly 40 TDs over a typical season, which is an astronomical thing to project upon a half-year starter in a heavily run-based offense.

    2. The Eagles, of course, are as run-heavy as just about anybody, especially in the red zone. So Foles looks unlikely to suddenly start piling up short TD passes. That’s how Manning and Brady put up their dazzling TD seasons: by throwing the ball relentlessly from inside the 10.

    3. I project QB TDs only after I’ve projected all of his teammates’ TDs. I do this because I feel a receiver’s ability to catch TDs influence actual TD production more so than a QB’s ability to throw them. This isn’t foolproof, of course. Some QBs will absolutely pepper third-string TEs and FBs with 1-yard TDs and blow up my projections, but I can’t account individually for the Next Joe Fauria or Ben Utecht.

    From that perspective, it’s hard for me to see Foles continuing to blow all of these HOFers out of the water. Foles’ 2013 TD total was helped tremendously by DeSean Jackson’s speed and versatility, Riley Cooper catching an absurd number of deep jump balls, and Brent Celek somehow scoring 6 TDs on 36 catches.. I have Foles’ final line at 3,992 yards and 29 TDs.

    Here’s a big Foles question: why did he run so much? He’s not fast or athletic by a long shot, but ran the ball as often as Wilson, Kaepernick, and RG3. Do you expect him to add another 2-3 points per game with his legs?

  11. Justin Winn
    June 25, 2014 at 8:34 pm —

    DSR24718 FFAvenger TheCFX I think Hartline is substantially better than Cooper. Racism jokes aside, his nickname should be Riley “Product of a Chip Kelly Offense” Cooper.

  12. TheCFX
    June 25, 2014 at 9:05 pm —

    A Magician Named GOB Hello, Magician.  Thanks for your thoughtful response.  All great points.  I’m not sure if I have any other reason that “the offense calls for it” with regards to Foles’ rushing ability.  I don’t watch him enough to know what percentage are designed runs versus scrambles versus read option plays, but I think it’s just CK’s way of forcing a defense to account for everyone.  It wouldn’t surprise me to see that continue…

    I definitely agree that the Eagles’ propensity for running the ball could be a huge wrench in this thing, but I also think that they probably can’t run it much/any more than they did last year.  Good look on Foles’ final line.  I kinda think about that as the floor, but it sounds like you have a lot more experience with individual player projections than I do, so I’ll respect your work with that.

  13. A Magician Named GOB
    June 25, 2014 at 9:20 pm —

    TheCFX A Magician Named GOB Thanks. I agree on that being his floor. I could definitely see him throwing more TDs than I projected; it’s just so hard to project wild outliers, so I scale them down quite a bit. (It’s like trying to put a bead on a RB’s yardage production when he ran for 6.5 YPC last year.) As you said, it’s not like they’re going to run the ball MORE, which would be damn near impossible. It’s just the red zone thing that gives me pause. Still, Jordan Matthews is a great jump receiver and they have two good TEs, so I could end up off base. If the team indeed looks to develop Foles’ talent and let him throw even an average number of passes, at his rates he could throw for 4,200 and 35-40 TDs. That would put him right alongside Brees and Rodgers.

  14. FFAvenger
    June 25, 2014 at 11:20 pm —

    DSR24718 TheCFX That’s what I just said – I estimate Foles around 30-35 TDs despite the lack of weapons.  I’ve just never been big on either of Philly’s WRs and as Matt Ryan taught us last year, you probably need at least one #1 WR to put up consistent QB1 numbers.  Jordan Matthews is probably that guy but it might take until next year for Foles to put up anything close to 35-40 TDs, much less 45.

  15. TheCFX
    June 26, 2014 at 12:13 am —

    A Magician Named GOB TheCFX Bingo!

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